Gershwin schreef:leg dan even uit wat ik misgezegd heb, want ik zie het niet
En dat, mijn beste, is precies het probleem...
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earthmaker schreef:Je legt me helemaal geen overtuiging op hoor. Beweer ik ook nergens.
Je opmerkingen bevatten echter een behoorlijk minderwaardige ondertoon die simpelweg verkeerd kan aankomen bij mensen die jouw levensovertuiging niet delen (en in 't geval dat jouw naiviteit niet grenst aan 't gebied van muziek: schrik niet, maar dit zijn er veel).
Misschien is het een idee daar eens rekening mee te houden en daaraan te denken vóór je je bewoording kiest.
kodeboswachter schreef:Het is wel nuttig om de achtergrond van nummers als 'hotel california' te begrijpen.
henkie schreef:Natuurlijk is er sprake van onjuistheden en aannames die gepresenteerd worden als feiten maar dat kan ook niet anders met een film waar zoveel informatie in zit.
De suggestie dat er vanaf de jaren 60 sprake is van een soort samenzwering (die vooral muziek als middel gebruikt) om mensen volledig van God los te maken, vond ik wel aardig. En ach...waarom zou het niet kunnen
De zuid-californische groep Eagles werd onder invloed van de occulte leer van de schrijver Carlos Castaneda geformeerd 1). Sinds 1972 behoren de Eagles met hun evenwichtige westcoast-rock tot de meest succesrijke amerikaanse groepen. De songs van de groep bestaan uit een gemakkelijk uitvoerbare muziek, voorzien van gemakkelijk lopende teksten en pakkende refreins, die met gevoelig gezang gebracht worden. De liederen blijven in je hoofd doorklinken.
Dat enkele van hun songs occulte inhoud overbrengen, dat zal de luisteraar zich nauwelijks bewust zijn - daar ze immers zijdezacht klinken alsof engelen ze hadden gezongen.
Uitgerekend hun beide superhits 'One of these Nights' (1975) en 'Hotel California' (1976) maken duidelijk, dat de Eagles lang niet zo onschuldig zijn als ze klinken.
ln'One of these Nights' klinken de woorden:
'Een van deze nachten . . . Ik heb naar de dochter van de duivel uitgezien. Ik heb naar een vrouw gezocht, die van beiden iets heeft. Ik bespeur haar nabijheid, kan haar echter nergens vinden ... Je hebt je demonen, je hebt je wensen, maar ik heb een beetje van mijzelf .
'Hotel California' heeft de herinneringen van een man tot inhoud die een verschrikkelijke beleving met het occulte gehad heeft. Het duistere is bij deze song een beetje 'tussen de regels' verborgen, zodat het uitnodigende refrein 'Welcome to the Hotel California' de luisteraars blind maakt voor de werkelijke boodschap van het lied.
Een man vertelt, hoe hij op de late avond op de autoweg door de wildernis rijdt en plotseling in de verte een flauw licht ziet schijnen. Daar hij moe is, stopt hij zijn wagen, om op deze plaats te overnachten. Als hij 'Hotel California' betreedt, is het hem niet duidelijk, waar hij eigenlijk is ('This could be heaven or this could be hell' - 'dit zou de hemel of de hel kunnen zijn').
Hij hoort stemmen in de nacht, bestelt wijn en wordt dan geïnformeerd dat deze geest ('that spirit') sinds 1969 niet meer in 'Hotel California' geweest is. De nachtelijke bezoeker wordt nu getuige van een satanisch ritueel:
'Spiegels aan het plafond, de rose champagne op ijs. En zij zei:'Wij zijn allen gevangenen hier, uit vrije wil'. En in de kamer van de meester verzamelen zij zich voor het feestmaal. Zij doorsteken het met hun stalen messen, maar het ondier kunnen ze eenvoudig niet doden'.
De bezoeker is ontsteld, hij vlucht uit 'Hotel California'. Buiten in de nacht moet hij echter met schrik vaststellen dat hij weliswaar ieder moment kan uitstappen, maar zich nooit meer van 'Hotel California' kan losmaken.
'Ontspan je', zei de man van de nacht. 'Wij zijn ervoor geprogrammeerd, bevelen te krijgen. Je kunt elk moment uitstappen, maar je kunt je nooit los maken'.
De tekst van 'Hotel California' zinspeelt waarschijnlijk op de satanskerk in San Francisco. Men vindt die daar in de . . . California straat. Toeval? Op de linkerkant van de binnenhoes van 'Hotel California' ziet men drie openingen die op vensters lijken. In het middelste venster is een gezicht te herkennen - dat van de kaalhoofdige Anton S. Zandor LaVey, het hoofd van de satanskerk. 2)
Eagles-manager Larry Salter gaf ' openlijk toe, dat enige musici van de Eagles met leden van de satanskerk omgaan.3)
Men kan het met John Rockwell, de auteur van het boek 'Trommelfeuer' eens zijn, wanneer hij schrijft:
'Deze muziek, zoals wij haar in 'Hotel California' horen, leidt er toe, dat wij onszelf verontschuldigen, wanneer wij haar horen. Wij verdringen de ware betekenis van de woorden, terwijl wij in ons hart door ritme, door gevoelig gezang, en door de gitaar gevangen worden genomen' .4)
De levensfilosofie van de Eagles kan misschien het beste weergegeven worden met de woorden van hun song 'Good Day in Hell':
'In dat goede boek met namen zou ik in vlammen willen ondergaan en erbij staan kijken, hoe ik te gronde ga. O ja het was een goede dag in de hel, en morgen zal ik voor de heerlijkheid bestemd zijn'.
"Hotel California"
On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air
Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night
There she stood in the doorway;
I heard the mission bell
And I was thinking to myself,
'This could be Heaven or this could be Hell'
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor,
I thought I heard them say...
Welcome to the Hotel California
Such a lovely place
Such a lovely face
Plenty of room at the Hotel California
Any time of year, you can find it here
Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes Benz
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys, that she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat.
Some dance to remember, some dance to forget
So I called up the Captain,
'Please bring me my wine'
He said, 'We haven't had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine'
And still those voices are calling from far away,
Wake you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say...
Welcome to the Hotel California
Such a lovely place
Such a lovely face
They livin' it up at the Hotel California
What a nice surprise, bring your alibis
Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice
And she said 'We are all just prisoners here, of our own device'
And in the master's chambers,
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can't kill the beast
Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
'Relax,' said the night man,
We are programmed to receive.
You can checkout any time you like,
but you can never leave!
The Eagles' 1976 album "Hotel California" has sold more than 16 million copies, spawned a best-record Grammy, and is regarded by numerous rock critics as one of the best albums ever. Its title track, the haunting "Hotel California" continues to entrance listeners even though during its heydey the song was on the charts for only nineteen weeks and in the number one spot for only one.
Because its lyrics contain an ominous undercurrent, many have appeased their sense of disquiet by finding in the words literal and figurative meanings that just aren't there. Theories abound as to what the song means. Some see the devil in the lyrics. Others see a madhouse.
Some believe the song was written about a real inn bearing that name. Though there is a Hotel California in Todos Santos, a town on Mexico's Baja California peninsula, its relation to the song begins and ends with the coincidence of a shared name. None of the Eagles stayed there, let alone wrote music there. Nor did they have this building in mind when they set down the lyrics to this popular song.
Those who persist in believing the song must be named after an actual building have been known to assert "Hotel California" was the nickname of the Camarillo State Hospital, a state-run psychiatric hospital near Los Angeles which housed thousands of patients across its sixty-year history before closing in 1997. To them, the lyrics seem to fit what a mentally disturbed person would experience upon incarceration in a long-term care facility. The imagery of the song is explained as that person's hallucinations juxtaposed against moments of startling clarity as he realizes where he is.
However, by far the most common theme to surface in Hotel California rumors is one that links the song to devil worship. The lyrics (which speak of trying to "kill the Beast" and not having had "that spirit here since 1969") form the bedrock of the various Satan-related theories, but the belief is also fed by the album design. The inner cover is a photograph of people in a courtyard of a Spanish-looking inn. In a balcony above them looms a shadowy figure with arms spread. Many who look at that photo see Anton LaVey, leader of the Church of Satan, and interpret the spread arms as his welcoming the populace below into Satan's trap. That the people in the picture seem unaware of the gleefully evil figure standing above them only adds to the implicit horror of the scene — the innocents below are oblivious to their having wandered into the house of the Devil.
It's wonderful imagery. But it doesn't hold up. The shadowy figure was a woman hired for the photo shoot.
When it comes to finding Satan in this song, over the years we've heard the following:
The song is a tribute to the place where the Satanic Bible was written.
Devil worshippers bought an old church and rechristened "the Hotel California."
Some or all of the Eagles were either heavily involved with the occult or were disciples of LaVey.
All the album photographs were taken in and around a building that used by Anton LaVey's headquarters for his Church of Satan.
In California the 'Church of Satan' is registered under the name 'Hotel California.'
Another oddly persistent set of rumors centers on the photos used for the album. On the cover was the image of the approach to a Spanish mission-style hotel at sunset. Inside was the courtyard scene described above, and on its back was a photo of a black man leaning on a mop in the hotel's lobby. Besides the "Anton LaVey standing on the balcony" whisper, the presence of certain figures in some photos but not in others is attributed to their being ghosts whose spirits were accidentally captured on film, with the presumption being these were guests of the hotel who expired there. Also, the janitor leaning on a mop in the lobby photo has been rumored to be the propped-up corpse of a dead man (shades of Elmer McCurdy, that). In a particularly creepy extension of that rumor, he was murdered by LaVey as a human sacrifice or by the band members.
[Collected via e-mail, 2000]
On the cover of The Eagles album Hotel California, there is a picture of an abandoned hotel with someone in the doorway. When they took the picture there was noone in the hotel, and when they developed the picture it seemed as if there was noone there. But on the album cover there appeared someone in the doorway and the belief is that a person died (in some form or another...ranging from overdose to murder) in the hotel before it became abandoned and then appeared in the photo. Another variation I've heard is that they went back & took the picture twice and both times someone appeared in the doorway. I've also been told that the person is only visible on the album cover & not the tape or cd.
Besides the four primary rumors (real hotel, mental hospital, devil worship, ghostly images), we've also picked up some unusual ones:
The Hotel California was the name of an inn run by cannibals who were in the habit of taking in guests only to serve them up for dinner. The song's closing line ("You can check out any time you like / But you can never leave") seems to have sparked that one.
"They stab it with their steely knives" was a swipe at Steely Dan, with whom, according to rumor, the Eagles were having an ongoing feud.
"Warm smell of colitas rising through the air" line — which does refer to the scent of burning marijuana — was seen as a sign the song was about drug addiction. Others have interpreted 'Hotel California' as a code name for cocaine and thus saw both the album and the song itself as a description of a journey into addiction.
The song was about cancer. (We've no idea what prompted that thought.)
The truth proves far less satisfying than the myriad rumors that have sprung up around this song.
Hotel California is an allegory about hedonism and greed in Southern California in the 1970s. At the time of its release, the Eagles were riding high in the music world, experiencing material success on a frightening level. Though they thoroughly enjoyed the money, drugs, and women fame threw their way, they were disquieted by it all and sought to pour that sense of unease into their music and to warn others about the dark underside of such adulation.
In a 1995 interview, Don Henley said the song "sort of captured the zeitgeist of the time, which was a time of great excess in this country and in the music business in particular." In another interview that same year, he referred to it as being about a "loss of innocence."
The album has as its underlying theme the corruption of impressionable rock stars by the decadent Los Angeles music industry. The celebrated title track presents California as a gilded prison the artist freely enters only to discover that he cannot later escape.
The real Hotel California is not a place; it is a metaphor for the west coast music industry and its effect on the talented but unworldy musicians who find themselves ensnared in its glittering web.
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